[Info-vax] Next release of OpenVMS x86

[Dave Froble]

On 7/10/2020 7:51 AM, IanD wrote:
> I never remember digital engineers being as open and as Frank as the
> VSI ones

Maybe you didn't know the "right" engineers ...

> I'm very well aware there is VSI management who are putting their
> spin on things, I also don't like the fact that they publicly stated
> VMS security as being the best, I think it is foolish. A statement
> that they were not relying on VMS's solid track record in regards to
> security would have been better in my view

Ok, perhaps there could be possible vulnerabilities.  But, if they are 
not exploited, for whatever reason, then they are not yet an issue.

Nothing is perfect.  And note, the claims do not say VMS is impervious, 
just rather good.  Seems to me some work is happening to make it even 
better.

So their claims don't bother me.  Until there are successful exploits, 
it is secure.  Perhaps there will never be any successful exploits.

Carefully note that any past exploits did not happen on the software VSI 
is currently distributing.

Until it happens, it never happened ....

> Defcon 16 was some ago and the exploit mentioned did involve the TCP
> bolt on that VMS become all too known for but it was an exploit
> nevertheless and the bad guys don't care what method they use to get
> in, an exploit is an exploit
>
> Let's not sink the VMS ship before it's had time to sail but I do
> agree with you, it was silly to promote it's security virtues when
> it's been many years since it's come under a modern microscope
> analysis in regards to attacks and exploits

Haven't seen any of those "modern microscopes" lately ....

> Let VSI get on their feet first with the x86 port, I highly doubt
> most of the world is sitting waiting for VMS to appear in x86 just so
> they can attack it, I would have thought anyone with an interest in
> attacking the platform would have done so by now anyhow
>


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