[Info-vax] VAX VMS going forward

[Dave Froble]

On 7/21/2020 7:05 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>
>> On 7/21/2020 5:26 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <rf7lt9$6ti$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Would VSI allow a VSI sponsored VAX/VMS Version (whatever), or do they
>>>> have some reason they do not want there to be a new VAX/VMS version?
>>>>
>>>> Assume VSI hired Bob for $1 (donated by Dave) to build a new VSI version
>>>> of VAX/VMS, which would not cost them anything, no time (other than to
>>>> say Ok), and they would never be bothered by it's existence.
>>>>
>>>> Assume some entity (call if DECUS, if possible) made the distribution
>>>> available, along with the required PAKs.
>>>>
>>>> So, Ok, would Bob be willing and able to produce the new version?  Would
>>>> someone provide him with the resources to do so?  Would someone host the
>>>> distribution and PAKs and whatever else?
>>>
>>> Why should VSI be involved at all?  If I understand things correctly,
>>> HPE could take that dollar.  VSI isn't in the VAX picture at all.
>>>
>
>> You haven't been reading, or comprehending a damn thing.
>
>> HPe is out of the picture as far as VMs is concerned.  By their own choice.
>
>> VSI is the entity that can produce new versions, and then distribute and
>> allow use of said new versions.
>
>> Any usage of VAX/VMS therefore must come from VSI.
>
>> VSI does not want to spend one penny on VAX.
>> VSI does not want to spend one minute on VAX.
>
>> Which part of the above do you not understand?
>
> In addition:
>
> HPE still owns VAX/VMS.  Unlike the Alpha/Itanium version, VSI did NOT get any
> rights to VAX/VMS.  Like it or not, HPE still owns VAX/VMS outright, for them
> to ignore.  And as pointed out, VSI has no interest in VAX/VMS.
>

Well Michael, you've made me do some work.  Not my favorite thing. 
You'll pay for that indiscretion ....

With the subject: Re: State of the OpenVMS hobbyist program?
On 11-20-2019
Rob Brooks wrote:

We have the VAX sources, and could, if we wanted to, build
a VSI version of OpenVMS VAX.

We are not going to do that.

Period.  End of discussion.

-- 
                  -- Rob

So which is it, VSI could (but won't) build a VAX release, or, has no 
right to do so?

:-)

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