[Info-vax] The VSI Hobbyist program is Live!

Simon Clubley clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Wed Jul 29 13:59:01 EDT 2020


On 2020-07-29, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/29/20 10:49 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> 
>> Lacking imagination again Bill?
>
> No, I just have enough knowledge about how networking really works
> to know there is no way in hell they could find a machine on my
> home network, much less access it.  And, it's actually going to
> get even harder when I dump Verizon DSL and start doing all of
> my network management myself.
>

They don't need to. There are various reverse connection options
available where your firewall only ever sees outgoing connections
from your devices.

You are also missing the bit about where the licence requires you
to give reasonable cooperation to VSI.

>> 
>> Such products work by having your system go out to some server, and 
>> getting back replies.  It can be made to look as if something is coming 
>> in.  But it's all replies to something your system sends out.
>
> Exactly.  And how does VSI make my firewall pass a connection?
>

Does your firewall block every single outgoing connection to ports 80
and 443 (for example) unless you approve every single outgoing connection ?

>> 
>> I'd rather VSI did NOT use such tactics ....
>> 
>
> I doubt they will.  I think it was just more boilerplate.
>

Until it's removed from the licence, it's legally valid boilerplate.

Simon.

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Simon Clubley, clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
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