[Info-vax] Creating an open source version of VMS, was: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist Notification

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In article <r491hs$tu8$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>On 3/10/2020 9:57 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 3/10/20 9:21 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2020-03-09, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
>>> <helbig at asclothestro.multivax.de> wrote:
>>>> In article <r4606o$gjl$4 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>>>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Define "commercial" ....
>>>>
>>>> In this sense, "to make money; for profit".  But that isn't the only
>>>> restriction in the hobbyist license; it also has to be "personal use".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Something that did occur to me:
>>>
>>> I wonder, if someone tried to create an open source version of VMS
>>> from public documentation only, if VSI would somehow try to suppress
>>> development of it.
>>>
>>> There are a number of possibilities here, if you focus on application
>>> level source code compatibility and break compatibility at a lower level
>>> instead, in which you could produce something which runs a good number of
>>> existing applications but which has a _much_ cleaner and more functional
>>> operating system underneath.
>>>
>>> Think about how Linux is much more functional and cleaner underneath
>>> when compared to the original versions of Unix, yet can still compile and
>>> run earlier Unix application level source code.
>>>
>>> I wonder if VSI would actively try to suppress development of such an
>>> alternative version of VMS.
>>
>> It was tried more than a decade ago.  How far it got and how
>> successful it was should be obvious by this point.  I have
>> often thought about a clones for the PDP-11 OSes which are
>> much simpler and have never gotten anywhere on that either.
>>
>> bill
>>
>
>First you'd need a design, then it's simply a matter of coding.
>
>Maybe I don't have the "right attitude".  At this point in my life I can 
>use VMS for "real work" and WEENDOZE for email and browsing.  I don't 
>have the drive for more.  Aviation is much more fun.
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What he said.

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