[Info-vax] [Totally OT] Covid-19, was: Re: Creating an open source version of VMS, was: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist Notification

Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Mon Mar 16 21:24:09 EDT 2020


On 3/16/20 8:57 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 3/16/2020 8:14 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 3/16/20 3:07 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2020-03-16, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>> On 3/16/2020 12:46 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>> On 3/16/20 8:43 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>> What you can expect:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I heard a report on the news over here (being from our typical
>>>>> media must be taken with a very large grain of salt) that UK
>>>>> officials want everyone to get at least a mild case of the
>>>>> virus so that they develop natural antibodies to prevent a
>>>>> recurrence.
>>>
>>> There are reports circulating within the UK that this is exactly
>>> what they want to do.
>>>
>>>>>    This compared to a a report (also in the media)
>>>>> the the CDC has said recovered cases show no sign of any
>>>>> kind of antibodies.
>>>
>>> That's a serious concern. If that's true, it looks like we are going
>>> to be going through all this again next winter until the vaccine
>>> is ready.
>>>
>>
>> Not holding out much hope for that.  There have already been reports
>> that the virus has mutated at least once.
>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what they want to do.
>>>>
>>>> I am pretty sure that I know what they can do: very little.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They can implement strict social distancing measures.
>>
>> and how long do you think that can go on without destroying
>> what we know as civilization?  :-)
> 
> That shows some dubious thinking ....
> 
> How do you define "civilization"?
> 
> Does civilization depend upon:
> 
> Activities with many people very close to each other?

I am not the one who has been running around spouting the nonsense
"It takes a village." for the past two decades.

> 
> People with an active disease joining into close situations, such as 
> work, and such?

Goes on every day.

> 
> It is possible that humans have been extremely lucky so far.  With 
> global travel, things can spread quickly.

Yeah, and open borders just make it a lot easier.

> 
> People may have to adapt to practices that can avoid rapid spread of 
> disease.  Don't have any answers right now.
> 

Gonna see a lot of that.  For almost a year now LinkedIn has been
buried in articles about businesses moving away from remote work.
Now they are being forced into it for survival.  Wait till they
see that the work can still get done and at a substantial savings.
But that leads to another change.  People who work better alone
as opposed to people who work best in teams.

We are headed for a brave new world.

bill





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