[Info-vax] Suggested DCL enhancement
Stephen Hoffman
seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid
Wed Nov 4 13:21:42 EST 2020
On 2020-11-04 16:18:05 +0000, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply said:
> In article <rnujjl$fri$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>
>> On 11/4/2020 6:20 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <rnsqui$vbo$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
>>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>
>>>> Given how VMS is used today (practically no end users working at the
>>>> DCL prompt),
>>>
>>> How do you know?
>>
>> End users (the definition could be vague) run apps, not operating
>> systems. DCL is a method of communicating with the OS.
>
> OK, but the point was that hardly anyone works at the prompt, when
> there are people who do so, who are neither end-users, nor system
> managers, nor developers.
Hardly anyone is working at the command line.
Pretty much everybody here is using the command line.
Most app-using folks are either running GUI apps, or web-based apps, or
running "canned" command-line apps.
With OpenVMS, command-line usage is necessary for app developers, for
system administration, for those troubleshooting, and for networking
folks, too.
Which isn't very many folks.
That list of command-line users is not a big number of users in
comparison with the numbers of app-using folks around, whether OpenVMS,
or in computing generally.
And edit-compile-link-debug usage is generally fading, too.
Though that list of folks is ~all of the folks posting here.
IDE usage and management UI usage and app user interface designs are
all shifting developers and administrators and networking folks and
end-users away from the command-line, too.
Ponder:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias#/media/File:Survivorship-bias.png
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