[Info-vax] Suggested DCL enhancement

Stephen Hoffman seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid
Wed Nov 4 13:21:42 EST 2020


On 2020-11-04 16:18:05 +0000, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply said:

> In article <rnujjl$fri$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
> 
>> On 11/4/2020 6:20 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <rnsqui$vbo$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= 
>>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>> 
>>>> Given how VMS is used today (practically no end users working at the 
>>>> DCL prompt),
>>> 
>>> How do you know?
>> 
>> End users (the definition could be vague) run apps, not operating 
>> systems.  DCL is a method of communicating with the OS.
> 
> OK, but the point was that hardly anyone works at the prompt, when 
> there are people who do so, who are neither end-users, nor system 
> managers, nor developers.


Hardly anyone is working at the command line.

Pretty much everybody here is using the command line.

Most app-using folks are either running GUI apps, or web-based apps, or 
running "canned" command-line apps.

With OpenVMS, command-line usage is necessary for app developers, for 
system administration, for those troubleshooting, and for networking 
folks, too.

Which isn't very many folks.

That list of command-line users is not a big number of users in 
comparison with the numbers of app-using folks around, whether OpenVMS, 
or in computing generally.

And edit-compile-link-debug usage is generally fading, too.

Though that list of folks is ~all of the folks posting here.

IDE usage and management UI usage and app user interface designs are 
all shifting developers and administrators and networking folks and 
end-users away from the command-line, too.

Ponder: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias#/media/File:Survivorship-bias.png 




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