[Info-vax] Final Orace release on VMS.

[Marc Van Dyck]

Jan-Erik Söderholm brought next idea :
> Den 2020-11-12 kl. 17:05, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
>> On 10/28/2020 9:59 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <rnbs20$on2$1 at panix2.panix.com>, kludge at panix.com (Scott
>>> Dorsey) writes:
>>>> Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) <helbig at asclothestro.multivax.de> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> What fraction of paying VMS customers use Oracle "classic" (which is
>>>>> what the announcement is about)?  What fraction use Rdb?  What fraction
>>>>> use some other database?  What fraction use no database (not counting
>>>>> RMS)?
>>>>
>>>> Probably not many use Oracle Classic.  However, if there is any chance of
>>>> expanding the customer base at all and get new people to use VMS, having
>>>> support for Oracle is a big, big deal.  There are a lot of people using
>>>> Oracle on their back end systems.
>>>
>>> Big users of Oracle Classic probably have an application very tied to
>>> the database.  There isn't a huge advantage for them moving to VMS.  My
>>> guess is that, among paying customers, more than half use Rdb and less
>>> than 1% Oracle Classic.
>> 
>> Rdb is undoubtedly the most important among those using VMS today.
>> 
>> But VMS should hopefully grow beyond who are using VMS today.
>> 
>> For a certain market segment then Oracle DB (Oracle classic) is
>> very important.
>> 
>> But:
>> 1) Oracle may be difficult to persuade to change strategy (they are
>>     a huge company and VSI is a small company).
>> 2) There are other market segments than those willing to pay
>>     a 5 digit dollar amount per core for database licenses.
>> 
>> Available relational databases on VMS include:
>> * Rdb
>> * MySQL/MariaDB
>> * SQlite
>> * Mimer
>> * HSQLDB
>> * H2
>> * Derby
>> 
>> Arne
>> 
>
> Seems as the response from Oracle is to run your applications as
> usual using the client kit, but have the server on another platform.

With support for the client until end 2022 only, and for the server
end of 2027. And on Itanium only, as there will not be any port to
X86 at all, even not the client.

In other words, start migrating today. WHat's the proportion of VSI
customers who need access to an Oracle database ? If all those cannot
migrate to X86, is the viability of VSI still guaranteed ? Who's going
to bet the farm on that, with one year subscription licenses ?

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Marc Van Dyck