[Info-vax] Rdb/x86

[Simon Clubley]

On 2020-11-13, Jan-Erik Söderholm <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:
> Den 2020-11-13 kl. 14:18, skrev Simon Clubley:
>> On 2020-11-12, Jan-Erik Söderholm <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:
>>> Den 2020-11-12 kl. 19:22, skrev Simon Clubley:
>>>> I've just checked VSI's website - there's nothing there that I can see
>>>> and this is _major_ and _very_ good news for VMS on x86-64.
>>>
>>> Right, and I think that was commented on also.
>>>
>> 
>> It's now the next day and still nothing on the VSI website that I can see.
>> 
>> This is absolutely massive and excellent news for the future of VMS
>> and by now every customer that VSI has the contact details for should
>> have been told about it, especially the non-Rdb users. :-(
>> 
>> This would send a major signal because VSI have managed to get _Oracle_
>> to commit to Rdb on x86-64 and it would be a major confidence boost that
>> x86-64 VMS is less likely to suddenly fail at the last moment.
>> 
>> I hope any VSI employees reading this tell VSI marketing to get their
>> act together _today_ (literally) and get this news out to everyone.
>> 
>> This is really good news for building confidence in the future of VMS,
>> but only if everyone knows about it.
>> 
>> Simon.
>> 
>
> Cool down...
>
> What Kevin Duffy presented is probably what everyone already expected.
> It is not a major surprice that Oracle are looking at Rdb/x86.
> It would have been if they were *not* looking at Rdb/x86.
>

Oracle just dropped "Oracle Classic" on VMS.

Expected (also known as "hoping") is not the same thing as knowing.

> And besides, "next day" after what? How do you know that a large part
> of the VMS customers doesn't already knew this? How do you know that
> this hasn't been presented in other events before? Just the fact that
> something isn't mentioned on c.o.v does not mean that it doesn't exist...
> And who are those "everyone" you speak for?
>

The next day after this is known to the VMS community at large.

When this was being discussed recently no-one could even confirm that
Rdb was being ported to x86-64 and we didn't know if it was going to
go the way of Oracle Classic.

Many people around here would make excellent VSI marketing employees.
That is not a good thing BTW.

The reason why people are commenting about (the lack of) VSI marketing
is because I suspect they can see the same bigger picture that I can.

After years of broken promises about when x86-64 VMS would become
available, big things are finally starting to happen in the x86-64 VMS
world, and VSI should be shouting that out loud to anyone who will
listen.

VSI should be actively continuing to keep the idea of VMS as a still
viable choice in the minds of people and when something like this comes
along which shows that, after years of broken promises, x86-64 VMS is
_finally_ almost here, VSI should be telling everyone about it as soon
as they are allowed to (which at the latest is when Oracle did their
first public presentation on it).

This is excellent news for VMS and any other company would be massively
promoting the hell out of it and generally building up an atmosphere
of excitement towards the upcoming release of x86-64 VMS.

Even HP (at least back in the days of Sue) did a better job of this
than VSI marketing are doing. Who knows, once they have got around to
doing normal marketing, perhaps VSI could even start creating promotional
materials like Sue did that could be on display in your workplaces and
hence start discussions about VMS and keep it in the minds of people. :-)

Simon.

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