[Info-vax] Final Orace release on VMS.

Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Sun Nov 15 09:35:39 EST 2020


On 11/15/20 1:04 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 11/14/2020 7:41 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 11/14/2020 2:35 PM, John Dallman wrote:
>>> In article <roosmk$ga0$1 at dont-email.me>, jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
>>> (Jan-Erik Söderholm) wrote:
>>>> Read my lips, there will *never* be a "modern" browser running on
>>>> VMS servers having features up to date with browsers on desktop
>>> systems.
>>>
>>> Is there some fundamental impossibility to porting Chromium or Firefox?
>>> Or do you simply reckon nobody will go to sufficient effort?
>>
>> Everything is possible given enough time and money.
>>
>> But todays browsers are huge code wise.
>>
>> It may very well be a bigger effort to get Chromium/FireFox
>> running *well* on VMS that to port VMS to x86-64.
>>
>> I will cost a fortune.
>>
>> And having a browser available on VMS will not generate
>> much revenue.
>>
>> There is no business case.
> 
> Of course there is a business case.
> 
> Phillip will pay $20 million for each VMS desktop running the browser.
> 
> :-)
> 


Laugh if you will, but, actually, there is a business case for desktop
to data-center.

Every business running today has desktop to data-center. It's a reality.
Right now, the majority are running Windows and thus have compatibility
from desktop to data center.  Current real businesses running VMS also
have to maintain desktop to data-center. But, in their case that means
maintaining two totally disparate operations.  That is not a plus.  So,
you now have to maintain those two operations and the skill set needed
for each of them is very foreign.  That means you need to hire and
maintain people with two totally incompatible skill sets.  Bad business
and an unnecessary additional expense.  Now, how many Windows admins
are likely to be willing to learn what is necessary to be VMS admins
as well.  And in reverse, how many VMS admins are willing to put in
the work and effort needed to acquire things like MCSE certification?
(Yes, more and more businesses are requiring that their key people
get and maintain certifications no matter how worthless they really
are.)  So, when the decision comes down to choosing the systems that
can meet all the needs from desktop to datacenter who has the advantage?

And, as someone stated here just a short time ago, it's all about
the money.

bill




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