[Info-vax] What to do with my VAX.....

[Dave Froble]

On 11/16/2020 9:46 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 11/16/20 9:32 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 11/16/2020 3:38 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <rot4rj$onr$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> I'm not saying that an attacker doesn't know the algorithm, I'm saying
>>>> the attacker does not know the secret key.  But, however unlikely, an
>>>> attacker could "guess" the secret key on his first try.  It is the fact
>>>> that an attacker doesn't know the secret key is the "obscurity" aspect
>>>> of the security.  Since an attacker could get incredibly lucky and
>>>> guess
>>>> the secret key on his first attempt, then it is only the difficult of
>>>> that guess that is the security.
>>>
>>> Right.  I think that folks here understand.  However, the term "security
>>> by obscurity" has a very specific meaning, and it is confusing to use it
>>> to mean something else.
>>>
>>> By your definition, all forms of access restriction are "security by
>>> obscurity", since those who have access have it because they have
>>> something which those who don't don't, though they could, theoretically,
>>> bluff their way through and get lucky.
>>>
>>
>> I was just agreeing with Roland's statement, "ALL ENCRYPTION is
>> security by obscurity".
>>
>
> You can redefine a term common to the IT world all you want, it
> does not change reality.
>
> bill
>

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