[Info-vax] Final Orace release on VMS.

[Phillip Helbig undress to reply]

In article <rp1dga$oo0$2 at dont-email.me>,
=?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?= <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com>
writes: 

> >> Seems to me, a lot of people arguing why VMS should *not* have a web
> >> browser, again relegating VMS to a dark corner of serverism, when every
> >> other major OS has a web browser support and is expected as a standard
> >> feature. You run a web server, then you need a local browser to work on
> >> it ideally, not on another machine elsewhere.
> > 
> > Exactly.  And it avoids having to have an additional machine just to run
> > the web browser.
> 
> You do not need "an additional machine". Just do as everyone else does, use
> the desktop system you already have anyway for everything not VMS related. 
> I really do not understand why you make everything so hard for yourself.

Because I don't have an additional desktop system.  :-)  And I don't 
want to have to run a Windows or Linux desktop machine just to have a 
web browser to download files to VMS.  I don't need it for anything 
else.  (I do have an iPad---and my first app was a VT220 emulator---but 
that is for travelling.  Yes, when the VMS browsers aren't good enough, 
I can download stuff to that and somehow get it to VMS and remind myself 
of the good old days when I could get anything from the internet 
directly to VMS.)  I certainly wouldn't dream of connecting to VMS from 
a non-VMS system.  At work, I have had to do that for years, and every 
day am reminded of the good old days when we all had a VMS workstation: 
proper keyboard, no fiddling with font servers, CDE and DECwindows just 
work, no xmodmap shenanigans, and so on.  At home, I have nice monitors 
running CDE as well as real terminals.  Proper keyboards everywhere.  
Life is good.