[Info-vax] Logging systartup_vms.com progress to operator.log VMS 7.3-2

[Dave Froble]

On 10/27/2020 12:07 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2020-10-27 06:02:57 +0000, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply said:
>
>> In article <rn7l7l$22i$1 at dont-email.me>, "Craig A. Berry"
>> <craigberry at nospam.mac.com> writes:
>>
>>> From the point of view of installing software, the person
>>> traditionally known in VMS-land as the "system manager" *is* the end
>>> user.
>>
>> It depends.  Certainly some places have one group of people for
>> hardware, one group for networks, one group for system management,
>> one  group for application support, and several groups of users of
>> those  applications.  A hobbyist typically wears all 5 hats.  Small
>> shops are somewhere in-between.
>
> You're the person that must manually edit or manually configure SYSMAN
> STARTUP for the product startup, as archaic as that manual install-time
> requirement might seem.
>
> So, "From the point of view of installing software", you're the end-user
> system manager here.
>
>
>

When there is flexibility, there is always a cost.

I don't get out much, but, I don't know of any method to have private 
disks on say, WEENDOZE.  Perhaps such might exist.

If I wish to mirror (RAID1) a set of disks, doesn't that require some 
set-up?

If I want to have backups, don't I need to specify what and how?

Perhaps I'm out of touch, but, it is my impression that some are 
comparing "personal", ie; it is what it is, with flexible systems that 
allow a lot of options.

Systems that just work out of the box are most likely less flexible.

Systems that allow many options will require some additional work.

Not saying that set-up cannot be easier and better, anything can be 
easier and better.  There is a cost vs benefit consideration.

Just the way I see things ..

-- 
David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450
Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef at tsoft-inc.com
DFE Ultralights, Inc.
170 Grimplin Road
Vanderbilt, PA  15486