[Info-vax] VSI has a new CEO
Bill Gunshannon
bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Thu Aug 5 09:07:27 EDT 2021
On 8/5/21 8:40 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/5/2021 4:09 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>> In article <sef7om$i74$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>>>>> Current customers presumably. There are probably folks waiting in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> wings, maybe until VMS runs on bare-metal x86, before they consider
>>>>>> whether to port.
>>>>>
>>>>> VSI has said this will happen.
>>>>
>>>> Right.
>>>>
>>>>> So why would anyone wait? For today,
>>>>> VMS on x86 is the future.
>>>>
>>>> Right. But if people want to port their application to bare-metal x86,
>>>> few if any will start before that bare-metal x86 is available.
>>>
>>> Now that is just plain wrong. VMS is VMS, regardless if running in a VM
>>> instance, or not. Actually, VM instances will be better for porting
>>> work. One doesn't need a production level computer to do porting work.
>>
>> Sure, but do you expect people with no previous VM experience to learn
>> about VMs just to port VMS so that they have a head start on the time
>> when VMS doesn't need a VM on x86?
>
> I don't see the big problem.
>
> If we are talking about a corporate environment, then you request
> the number of VM with given specs and the VMWare guru do the
> work.
>
> If we are talking about developer/hobbyist usage, then one
> download some VM software, install it, start it, choose
> create new VM, specify specs, save and start. It is really
> no big deal, less than hour, anybody outside the "I can't find
> the ANY key on the keyboard" segment can do it.
>
I have been following this VM vs. bare-metal discussion (or is it an
argument?) Some people here think it is a no-brainer, but that isn't
really true. People tend to care about their environment. Doesn't
make them wrong just different. Even if others don't see the problem
there may be real reasons behind their choices. Dave likes to do his
programming in BASIC. I have no doubt the job could be done in Pascal,
C or maybe even COBOL (based on what I think the program actually does).
Does that make his choice of COBOL wrong? This is kinda like going to
a bunch of Mainframers who use Unisys 2200's and telling them they
really should be using Big Blue.
May sound silly to some here, but this one item could be important to
others and may even result in some further erosion of the VMS world.
bill
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