[Info-vax] VSI has a new CEO

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 8/5/21 8:38 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2021-08-05 kl. 14:14, skrev Phillip Helbig (undress to reply):
>> In article <segcga$g9$1 at dont-email.me>,
>> =?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?= <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com>
>> writes:
>>
>>> And anyway, most VMS sites already have the VM admins in other groups
>>> that does the VM config and just present you with the VM environment.
>>>
>>> When the VM is ready there should be very few differences from a bare
>>> metal VMS installation.
>>>
>>> If you are a single person shop, use VirtualBox. Just as easy as any
>>> PC application to install and in it self way easier then to run VMS.
>>
>> Wearing my hobbyist hat, that means that I would have to have some other
>> OS running on the machine in order to install VirtualBox?  I can see it
>> working fine in terms of logging in and getting to the DCL prompt.  But
>> what about things like clustering (not between instances of VirtualBox
>> on the same hardware, but between different physical machines), HBVS,
>> and so on?
>>
> 
> "Everyone" has a laptop supporting VirtualBox.
> 
> "VirtualBox runs on Windows, Linux, Macintosh, and Solaris hosts..."

Two things:

1. Unless it has changed considerably from the last time I ran it for
anything, VirtualBox is unsuited for any kind of production environment.
And development of software intended for use in a production environment
is also production.

2, Many people here have expressed their desire to work in a VMS
environment.  Not Linux, not Mac and certainly not Windows.  For
one thing, it requires the acquisition of knowledge they may not
wish to have.  This could be a deal breaker.  Management may see
it as: "If I have to run Linux in order to run VMS, why am I
running VMS?"

> 
> I do not see why clusters and HBVS would not work in an VirtualBox
> environment. Not with physical shared disks of course, but over
> the network.
> 
> In the PDF from the last Webinar there is a SHOW CLUSTER output
> shown having 10 nodes:
> 2 nodes with V9.1 (x86 in a VM)
> 2 nodes with 8.4-1H1 (older IA64)
> 2 nodes with 8.4-2L2 (should be Alpha, I think)
> 4 nodes with 8.4-2L3 (latest IA64)
> 
> This might use some other VM environment than VirtualBox, but from
> the VMS point of view that should not matter, as far as I understand.

And that is another issue.  In order to run VMS in a production
environment you will now have to also run something like VMWare
in a production environment with all the associated costs of doing
it.

bill