[Info-vax] Any stronger versions of the LMF planned ?, was: Re: LMF Licence Generator Code

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2021-08-08 kl. 22:42, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
> On 8/7/2021 8:24 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 8/7/21 7:40 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 8/7/2021 6:42 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> On 8/7/21 5:56 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> - it does not integrate with newer system that it need to
>>>>>    integrate with
>>>>
>>>> With the exception of Dave's system (I actually know very little
>>>> about VMS BASIC) I can think of no legacy system that can not be
>>>> integrated into a modern system.  I have had no problems doing web
>>>> programming with COBOL.
>>>
>>> Anything can be somewhat integrated using various hacks.
>>
>> I needed no hacks to get COBOL running on the web.  It's a mindset
>> problem, not a technical one.
> 
> Literally nay programming language can be used to write
> a CGI script.
> 
> But there is a very long way from the 1995 CGI scripts
> to modern web solutions.
> 
> Did you Cobol web app support:
> - session sharing across cluster
> - OAuth integration
> - LDAP integraion
> - verification of client certificate
> - Redis or memcached for cache
> - exposing status / load info to load balancer
> - reporting stats and health check to IBM Tivoli / CA Unicenter / Zabbix
> - reporting to Prometheus
> - HTTP/2 push
> - web sockets
> - switching to in-cloud managed service for database
> - having accept request header determine response format
> ?
> 
> Arne
> 
> 


Are we/you talkning about an application that runs "on the web"
without any other help from a normal web server?

In the OpenVMS case, most of your points above would be handled
by WASD (just as I know that one best) and the Cobol code just
do the business logic. Maybe a small C-jacket to handle the
CGI API against WASD also. But there is nothing stopping some
Cobol code to be the main business logic in an web solution.

Today, and particular on an real environment such as OpenVMS
(not some embedded thing), I do not see why one would put all
the functionallity, that already has been developed and debugged
by a tool such as WASD, into your own application.