[Info-vax] Any stronger versions of the LMF planned ?, was: Re: LMF Licence

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 8/9/21 6:14 PM, chris wrote:
> On 08/09/21 22:44, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 8/9/21 5:12 PM, chris wrote:
>>> On 08/09/21 21:35, John Dallman wrote:
>>>> In article<serrmi$1akh$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, chris-nospam at tridac.net
>>>> (chris)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/09/21 19:04, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/9/2021 1:37 PM, chris wrote:
>>>>>>> Perhaps so, but desn't change the fact that Oracle have made a
>>>>>>> support only business model a success, Linux or Solaris. A vast
>>>>>>> range of s/w from that site, same business.
>>>>
>>>> Oracle are not primarily in the OS business. Nor were Sun.
>>>>
>>>> Sun were in the hardware business, and became non-viable when commodity
>>>> hardware with Linux became far more cost-effective than their own
>>>> hardware with Solaris.
>>>>
>>>> Oracle are in the database software business. The database is free to
>>>> evaluate, but /not/ to use for commercial production work.
>>>
>>> Of course, all that is public knowledge and here at least, have been
>>> using Sun kit for far longer than vms. That's sad, because VMS was the
>>> first serious OS I worked with and I really liked it. At least with
>>> some other proprietary systems, I can evaluate at no cost and use them
>>> without limit for non commercial purposes. More likely to find something
>>> to recommend to clients under such conditions.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Of course, but we are not suggesting that and in any case, Oracle
>>>>> always have, right back to the days of Sun, done all the Solaris
>>>>> development in house, millions of $, but have made money from it
>>>>> none the less.
>>>>
>>>> They seem to have rather lower levels of spending on that these days.
>>>
>>> Yes, nothing stays the same, but still doesn't negate the point I was
>>> trying to make about successful software licensing models...
>>>
>>
>> Anybody here know what licensing model Unisys uses? They don't call
>> it a Hobbyist Program but I have Unisys 2200 running on Intel here.
>> Works under Windows or Linux. Just like the days when I did Univac
>> 1100 running Exec-8. Still supports the 68/74 COBOL compiler I used
>> when I did this every day.
>>
>> bill
>>
> 
> Perhaps no one really cares about a few enthusiasts running older
> operating systems. 

If you mean the Unisys I was talking about it isn't something old.  It
is their current Mainframe Software System.  The comments about Univac
1100 and Exec-8 was merely to point out that they continue to support
their older systems along with current technology.

>                     I have several pdp and vax machines, where
> there are none of the original DEC os's available to run
> legally. I can run several versions of unix from the unix
> historical society, but no DEC os's, making all that older
> hardware orphans. Did a lot of work on PDP and vax machines
> years ago, but no provision now and even have some RA60 packs
> full of that work, but are any RA60 drives alive now ?. Maybe
> in the US, but not in the uk. I'm sure all this has been done
> to death in the past here, but no solution, it seems...

Still doesn't answer the question about what licensing system Unisys
uses.

bill