[Info-vax] Any stronger versions of the LMF planned ?, was: Re: LMF Licence Generator Code

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2021-08-10 kl. 22:49, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
> On 8/10/2021 3:57 PM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Den 2021-08-10 kl. 19:47, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
>>> On 8/10/2021 1:30 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>                                                              At least
>>>> at one time one could download a kit (not the latest) with no support if
>>>> one were DEVELOPING a COMMERCIAL application.  While that is
>>>> non-commercial (as long as it doesn't make money), it is a SMALL subset
>>>> of non-commercial use and definitely NOT some sort of hobbyist or
>>>> community license.
>>>
>>> Oracle allows free development for a lot of their products.
>>
>> I think that is generally true for any product in the "Enterprise" class.
>> There is an Enterprise version of Oracle "classic" and any Rdb version
>> (there is really only one for each platform) is always "Enterprise".
>> So Rdb is always free for your development system, as I understand.
>> Test and prod is differnt and with weird rules.
>>
>> We where quoted for Rdb on a new 2 CPU DS25 Alpha test system. Oracle
>> claimed that the lowest quote was 25 "users" per CPU or 50 users in
>> our case. For a test box with at most 2 developers testing new stuff.
>> That project was canned, Rdb was about 5 times the VMS cost and 10
>> times the cost of the DS25 hardware. For a test system...
> 
> Oracle pricing can be "a bit high".
> 
> :-)
> 
> Has anyone gotten a message from Oracle about how Rdb will
> be licensed on x86-64?
> 
> Traditional Oracle licensing would be a list price if 47500 dollars
> per 2 cores of CPU.
> 
> And Oracle traditionally count all cores in the physical
> box not VCPU's allocated to VM unless Oracle VM software
> is used.
> 
> And with modern 16/24/32 core CPU's then that would
> be "a bit pricey".
> 
> Arne
> 

That is the "full system" pricing. You can also ask for a "per user"
quote and compare the outcome. But note that there is a min quote of
25 "users" per core. And also, Oracle prices are usually highly
negotiable, reductions of up to 50% has been seen.