[Info-vax] Any stronger versions of the LMF planned ?, was: Re: LMF Licence Generator Code

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 8/15/21 2:02 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/15/2021 1:28 PM, kemain.nospam at gmail.com wrote:
>>> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of VAXman---- via
>>> Info-vax
>>> In article <sf3k2f$re3$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, 
>>> helbig at asclothestro.multivax.de
>>> (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) writes:
>>>> It is still used in the financial industry, for instance.  And, yes,
>>>> people are writing new COBOL code.
>>>
>>> I have two clients that are both writing COBOL for aerospace 
>>> logistics and
>> on
>>> VMS too.
>>>
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>>
>> Yep, I know of one US-Canada Customs 24x7 critical environment that is 
>> based
>> on OpenVMS Cobol and Oracle Rdb.
>>
>> If the App is down, trucks stop at the border.
> 
> It is probably a general characteristics for Cobol
> applications today that:
> 1) they were created many decades ago

COBOL programs are still being created today.

> 2) they do something  really impotant

That part is definitely true.  Like all of the DOD Payroll
(including retirees!). :-)

> 
>> Mostly mainframe, but seems like lots of Cobol:
>> https://www.adzuna.ca/search?q=cobol&w=Canada
> 
> 101 Cobol jobs in Canada.
> 
> (but for comparison 6392 PHP, 6328 Python, 6146 Java,
> 3088 C#, 2856 C++, 341 Kotlin, 242 Groovy, 151 Rust,
> 71 VB.NET, 11 Fortran, 5 PL/I)
> 

And, how many of those PHP, Python, Java, C++, C# are just modern
boilerplate?  The job may require one or none of them.  I have seen
jobs for web designers list dozens of languages some of which would
never be used on the web.

I still think the surge in COBOL job announcements has a lot to
do COVID work from home people who have decided they do not want
to go back to the office again.  And the general belief about the
people doing COBOL has long been that they are all of retirement
age anyway.

bill