[Info-vax] Any stronger versions of the LMF planned ?, was: Re: LMF Licence Generator Code

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>From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj via
>Info-vax
>Sent: August-15-21 8:36 PM
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>Cc: Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk>
>Subject: Re: [Info-vax] Any stronger versions of the LMF planned ?, was: Re:
>LMF Licence Generator Code
>
>On 8/15/2021 6:30 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 8/15/21 2:02 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 8/15/2021 1:28 PM, kemain.nospam at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Yep, I know of one US-Canada Customs 24x7 critical environment that
>>>> is based on OpenVMS Cobol and Oracle Rdb.
>>>>
>>>> If the App is down, trucks stop at the border.
>>>
>>> It is probably a general characteristics for Cobol applications today
>>> that:
>>> 1) they were created many decades ago
>>
>> COBOL programs are still being created today.
>
>I don't think many brand new COBOL applications are created.
>
>Existing applications get maintained and enhanced.
>
>That may include creating new executables that interact with existing COBOL
>stuff.
>
>But if it is total from scratch, then practically nobody will pick COBOL.
>
>>> 2) they do something  really impotant
>>
>> That part is definitely true.  Like all of the DOD Payroll (including
>> retirees!). :-)
>>
>>>
>>>> Mostly mainframe, but seems like lots of Cobol:
>>>> https://www.adzuna.ca/search?q=cobol&w=Canada
>>>
>>> 101 Cobol jobs in Canada.
>>>
>>> (but for comparison 6392 PHP, 6328 Python, 6146 Java,
>>> 3088 C#, 2856 C++, 341 Kotlin, 242 Groovy, 151 Rust,
>>> 71 VB.NET, 11 Fortran, 5 PL/I)
>>>
>>
>> And, how many of those PHP, Python, Java, C++, C# are just modern
>> boilerplate?  The job may require one or none of them.  I have seen
>> jobs for web designers list dozens of languages some of which would
>> never be used on the web.
>
>There are probably some of that. But what if 33% of the PHP/Python/Java/C#
>are just synonyms for "programming".
>It does not change the overall picture.
>
>If you think 95% of them are boilerplate, then you are kidding yourself.
>
>Arne

A huge part of the value of a programmer is the understanding of custom business logic, company standards, culture etc.

You do not get this with off the street programmers that know all of the latest buzz words or latest "hot off the press" programming languages being touted by Universities.

Many (albeit not enough) companies want programmers that have experience and understand the company business policies and practices.

Hence, new programs do often get created in whatever language these experienced programmers are familiar with. In many cases, senior mgmt. will not ask "what language will you implement this new program in?", but rather "when will it be ready for testing?"


Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com





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