[Info-vax] What Will Drive More OpenVMS Adoption?

Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Fri Dec 3 15:36:24 EST 2021


On 12/3/21 10:53 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 12/3/2021 10:15 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>> In article <61aa18a0$0$700$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>,
>> =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>
>>> On 12/3/2021 3:21 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>>> Den 2021-12-03 kl. 08:59, skrev Phillip Helbig (undress to reply):
>>>>> In article <sochlr$v4t$1 at dont-email.me>,
>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?= <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com>
>>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I know, and I have not seen that change lately, Rdb is free
>>>>>> to use for development
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> or non-commercial use.
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That includes development
>>>>>> for commercial use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, ONLY development for commercial use.
>>>>>
>>>>> One is not allowed to use Rdb as a hobbyist, or for a non-profit 
>>>>> entity
>>>>> (which is by definition non-commercial), or whatever.
>>>>
>>>> OK. I do not know of any good source for it (in either way), but I seam
>>>> to remember from 6-7 years ago that it was OK for "hobbyist" use.
>>>
>>> The license wording is:
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Oracle grants You a nonexclusive, nontransferable, limited license to
>>> internally use the Programs, subject to the restrictions stated in this
>>> Agreement, only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping, and
>>> demonstrating Your application and only as long as Your application has
>>> not been used for any data processing, business, commercial, or
>>> production purposes, and not for any other purpose.
>>> </quote>
>>
>> I seem to remember that "application" had been defined to be commercial.
>> Maybe my memory is wrong or maybe the wording has changed.
>>
> 
> Aren't all hobbyists working on a "commercial application" ?
> 

No....   :-)

> They may never come up with something that sells, but they could still 
> be "working" on something.
> 
> :-)
> 


bill




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