[Info-vax] Licenses on VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source code listing scans

[Dave Froble]

On 12/9/2021 8:22 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/9/21 2:13 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>> In article <sos4b8$jrb$1 at inf1.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>, Joerg Hoppe
>> <j_hoppe at t-online.de> writes:
>>
>>> I digitized a pack of VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source code listings
>>> AH-BT13A-SE and AH-EF71A-SE, from micro fiche to PDF.
>>> Question is now: can I publish to the community or individuals?
>>
>> IANAL, but very probably not.  Look at the terms and conditions which
>> came with the listings.
>
> I expect he got them somewhere  like eBay and they didn't come with
> a license or anything beyond the listings themselves.
>
>>
>>> What is the license status for this old stuff (around 1985), VSI ?
>>
>> VSI has nothing to do with it, because they have no legal rights to VAX
>> stuff.
>
> I don't think that is true.  I believe VSI has license to all of it
> and only made the (proper?) business decision to not get involved with
> anything VAX.
>
>>
>> Legally, there is no such thing as abandonware.
>
> That is, actually, quite true although many people (including some
> here, based on comments I have seen) refuse to accept it.
>
>>
>> Some of that VAX source code still lives on in VSI VMS, so in that sense
>> VSI might be interested in your potential activities.  I don't know if
>> they can legally prevent you from publishing them, but if you want to
>> help "the community" it would be a good idea not to annoy the current
>> owner of VMS.
>>
>
> They are probably of very limited value but release of them would
> undoubtedly violate someone's IP rights.
>
> bill
>
>

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