[Info-vax] Licenses on VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source code listing scans

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 12/14/2021 1:22 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/14/21 1:02 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 12/14/2021 12:29 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 12/14/21 10:49 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> VMS PL/I certainly requires VMS.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Emulator has worked for me, but I believe Alpha's can be had relative
>>>> cheap.
>>>
>>> In most cases it costs more to ship one than the whole box is worth.
>>> Sadly, I have been one of those fixed income retirees you keep hearing
>>> about for several years now.  And inflation is making it even harder
>>> to make do.  Afraid there is no spare money for computer hobbies any
>>> more.  With the price of gas I can't even afford to make road trips
>>> for FTGH gear any more.  :-)
>>>
>>>> But then you need  to track down the license.
>>>
>>> VSI License is easy to come by.  I have one for the emulators I have
>>> been trying to get running.
>>
>> It was the PL/I license I was thinking about,
> 
> Oh, I thought the previous post said hobbyist licenses for the
> Kednos PL/I compiler were still available.

I think it is.

But I am not sure whether it is Kednos or Endless software you need
to go to.

And both web sites seems down now.

>>>>> But I may look into that. Haven't done any serious PL/I for
>>>>> 40 years but it was fun when I did.
>>>>
>>>> There are lots of rare languages to look at.
>>>>
>>>> GNU Modula-2 runs great on Linux.
>>>
>>> I was never impressed with Modula.  Not even when it got all
>>> the way up to 2.  :-)
>>
>> I think Modula-2 was a very nice language.
> 
> To each his own.  I saw it as an attempt to get people to stop
> using Pascal for the things it was never intended to for.  And
> then it started to grow.

I guess that is right. Pascal for real development. I consider that
a good thing.

>>>>>> Or you could give http://www.iron-spring.com/ a try on
>>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't know about this but a quick look shows  a beta that
>>>>> is, at least so far, incomplete.  But then, it's free and
>>>>> you get what you pay for.
>>>>
>>>> Too bad that Raincode only offer their Cobol compiler for
>>>> free and not their PL/I compiler.
>>>
>>> OK, I guess, if you want to do Windows.  :-)
>>
>> They do have a Linux version too.
> 
> I must have missed that in my quick perusal of their web page. I
> thought they said they were for .NET.

They are .NET based.

But .NET today is Windows, Linux or macOS at your choice.

Arne