[Info-vax] Where is EISNER:: and who funds it?

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/20/21 6:08 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 12/20/2021 1:00 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 12/20/21 12:45 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 12/20/2021 12:16 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> On 12/20/21 8:12 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 12/20/2021 12:32 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/19/2021 6:48 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/19/2021 5:32 PM, VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article 
>>>>>>>> <a6553b0e-2769-49cd-9bf6-5e361524a8dcn at googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>> "alanfe... at gmail.com" <alanfeldman48 at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 5:43:26 AM UTC-5, Volker Halle 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> EISNER is co-located in a data center of VSI since a couple of 
>>>>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Volker.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you know what city? Whose data center? Just curious.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, VSI is in Burlington.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given the size of VSI and the fact that it is 2021 then there is a
>>>>>>> pretty big probability that they use external hosting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How many external hosting sites offer a DS20?  That's what it was 
>>>>>> running
>>>>>> on last I heard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably none.
>>>>>
>>>>> But a lot of hosting facilities offer rack space where a
>>>>> DS20 will fit.
>>>>
>>>> If you are providing the hardware and the software what exactly is the
>>>> advantage
>>>
>>> You get a specialist to handle all the computer room / data center
>>> work: power incl. UPS, cooling, network connectivity, fire protection,
>>> access control etc..
>>>
>>> A small company could do all that themselves, but either it would not
>>> be done right or it would be way more expensive than paying someone
>>> that does it for thousands of customers.
>>>
>>>>            of putting your data in someone else's hands?
>>>
>>> The risk that the hosting provide would steal data is
>>> probably not one of the bigger concerns.
>>>
>>
>> It's not just the hosting company's employees you need to fear.
>> I don't understand all the trust people seem willing to place
>> in the hands of people you really don't know and have no control
>> over.  Maybe I'm just getting cynical in my old age but I don't
>> really see a reason to trust strangers whose only real interest
>> is how much the can get out of my wallet.
>>
>> bill
>>
> 
> Do you trust the military to protect the country, or is every home 
> heavily armed?

I was a part of it for more than 20 years.  I trust the military.  A
lot more than I trust the politicians running this country.  And, a
lot of homes are, in fact, heavily armed.  A factor that is starting
to scare those politicians.

> 
> Do you grow all your own food?

Nope.

> 
> Do you have your own water treatment plant?  If you live in town.

Don't live in town.  have my own well.  When I lived in town
I bought separate drinking water.  I once had my tap water tested
by the people who tested my pool water.  It was unfit for use
in a swimming pool.  I certainly wouldn't drink it.

> 
> Do you trust congress,  uhh, wait, don't go there ..

:-)

> 
> There is economies of scale in many things.  Of all the possible 
> advantages, I'd rate good internet connection(s) at or near the top of 
> the list.  Power also.
> 
> Ok, if you're Sandia Labs, no, you don't outsource.  But for many, the 
> service would be better, and the cost less.
> 

And I still don't see how you draw that conclusion.  It's really all
about trusting someone who has done nothing to win that trust.

bill