[Info-vax] VMS Moasic 4.2

[chris]

On 12/24/21 19:28, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 12/23/2021 2:25 PM, chris wrote:
>> On 12/23/21 00:52, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 12/22/2021 7:47 PM, chris wrote:
>>>> On 12/23/21 00:13, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 12/22/2021 7:02 PM, chris wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/22/21 23:50, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>>>> In article<9ac4059f59.mickenx at armx6>, Michael Grunditz
>>>>>>>> SSL works , I can browse wikipedia. with VSI OpenSSL 1.1.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *very happy*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Much more usable than mozilla on my XP900.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In that case, it does sound interesting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What doesn't work, compared to a modern web browser on a typical
>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>> (Windows, Apple, Linux)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything to do with later versions of java, which most sites seem
>>>>>> dependent on now. Did try early Mosaic on an old Sun system some
>>>>>> years ago and barely worked with anything, though Google tried it's
>>>>>> best...
>>>>>
>>>>> It does not support any version of Java and neither do any
>>>>> modern browser (Java applets are totally dead).
>>>>>
>>>>> It does not support any version of JavaScript either - and
>>>>> that is used by almost all web sites today.
>>>>
>>>> That was a global thing about java, which includes script.
>>>
>>> Java and JavaScript are two completely different languages.
>>>
>>> Java support in browsers and JavaScript support in browsers
>>> are totally independent.
>>>
>>> "Java including JavaScript" is similar to "Fortran including Cobol".
>>>
>>>> Pretty dead in the water really, unless the page is basic
>>>> html...
>>>
>>> Mosaic? Yes.
>>
>> Thanks for the tutorial, but quite aware of all that and it's considered
>> bad manners to lecture people at all, even more so when unaware of their
>> background.
>
> I have absolute no idea about your background.
>
> But I do know what you wrote:
>
> # ... java, which most sites seem dependent on now ...
>
> which is wrong. Practically no sites depends on
> Java in browser (most depends on JavaScript).
>
> # a global thing about java, which includes script
>
> which is wrong. JavaScript is not part of Java in any
> way.
>
> When you post crap like that then expect to be lectured!
>
> Arne
>

Well, there are arrogant nitpicking people everywhere, but says
more about you than me. The original source of Java was Sun
Microsystems decades ago and that infuenced javascript, so there
is a connection,  despite your attempts to muddy the waters,
lecture and disparage others at the same time.

I notice you don't address the point about security, a much more
important issue for those planning to use cloud, but I guess some
just just can't see the wood for the trees.

Have a happy holiday anyway...

Chris



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