[Info-vax] Where is EISNER:: and who funds it?

[Johnny Billquist]

On 2021-12-24 04:40, alanfe... at gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 7:55:40 AM UTC-5, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>> In article <00B6DA8D... at SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman-
>> @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
>>
>>>>> As is inches, feet, yards, miles, pounds, quarts, gallons, etc ...
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Right, I have heard about that. While the rest of the world has moved on.
>>>
>>> Dynes or newtons?
> 
> Excellent point.
> 
>> Both are metric, but newton is the SI, and hence preferred, unit. Same
>> with tesla over gauss.
> 
> Depends on the purpose. Use the right too for the job. And to my European freinds: How many Newtons do you weigh?

I think I might have hit reply instead of follow up. But instead of a 
long rant, I'll just observe that newtons is force.

And newtons are defined as kg * m/2^s. Anyone using SI units thus have a 
pretty easy time to figure out how many newtons of force he asserts, 
based on his mass. If you are lazy, you just add a "0" after your 
weight, and you have approximately how many newtons you are asserting at 
the surface of the earth. If you want to be a bit more precise you 
multiply your weight by 9.81, and if you want to be very precise, you 
need to know the actual gravity at the point where you are, and you 
multiply your mass by that to find the force. (But then you need to also 
really figure out what your mass is, which isn't that easy to figure out.)

And of course, if we move to the moon, our weight, and the force we 
assert will be all different.

But in the most simplistic terms, since if you step on a scale, you get 
a number for your weight, in kg, just multiplying it by 10 is usually 
good enough for newtons.

Do you have any other "difficult" questions for your European friends?

And while we're at it, how many lbf do you weight? And what is lbf? 
Force in pounds for acceleration expressed in m/s^2 ? So if you want it 
in lb * foot/s^2, there isn't even a unit? How messed up is this thing?

> Back to Fahrenheit: It has its advantages. When the temperature is in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s -- each range conjures up a different feeling. The Celsius degree is too big for that. "But is based on 0 and 100 for water!" So F what [pun not intended!]. How often do you even think of those when you are involved with the temperature. You've got two numbers: 32 and 212. Is this too hard to memorize? And when you hear those numbers you know it's temperature-related. 0 and 100 could be 'most anything.

There is absolutely no problems looking at celcius in ranges and figure 
out a feeling based on that. Most people do. Nonsense to think you can't.

It's not about memorizing. Any human should be able to memorize. It's 
about how easy or hard it is to use.
Yes, when you are used to one thing, it is always easy. If you learn 
one, and then move to another. The interesting question is - do you want 
to move back? That's what tells you which you should be going with.
Don't torment kids with the broken systems of their ancestors just 
because it is easier for you...

> Again, the reason Americans don't adopt Celsius is the same reason you haven't switched from the QWERTY to the Dvorak keyboard.

Definitely true in a sense. It's about using what you are used to in a way.
But you can both argue the superiority of Dvorak, and also observe and 
countries like France and Germany don't even use Qwerty.

   Johnny