[Info-vax] Where is EISNER:: and who funds it?

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/31/21 4:13 PM, kemain.nospam at gmail.com wrote:
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>> Gunshannon via Info-vax
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>> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] Where is EISNER:: and who funds it?
>>
>> On 12/31/21 12:30 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <j38o8jFr2d1U1 at mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
>>> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> If Canada is so much better why do all the snow-birds spend half the
>>>> year living in the US mooching off of the US taxpayers?
>>>
>>> How do they mooch?  Even if they take advantage of infrastructure and
>>> so on financed by U.S. taxpayers, surely the spend more money while in
>>> the States than they "use".
>>>
>>
>> They use resources that are paid for with tax money.  They do not pay
> taxes.
>> If I change states I have (depending on the state) 30 to 60 days to
> register  my
>> car in the new state in order for the states to get the road taxes.  They
> live
>> here for six months and never register their cars or pay road use taxes.
> And, it
>> would not surprise me to find out that when they return to Canada the first
>> thing they do is file for all their sales tax back.
>>
>> And, as I said, even when we were being told the border was closed the
>> snow-birds seemed to have no problem coming across as evidenced by the
>> number of cars with Canadian license plates on on the highways around
>> where I live.  A major snow-bird path.
>>
>> bill
>>
> 
> Not that I would ever choose the lifestyle i.e. spend 1 day less than 6
> months (183 days), in the US every year, but snowbirds are classified as
> tourists.
> 
> Do tourists in any US state pay road use taxes?

My point exactly.  I think we need to go back to visas and they
should be for no more than 21 days.  And they can only be renewed
when the holder is in their home country.

> 
> However, like other tourists, snowbirds do pay hotel/condo rental, 

Many of them do not.  They live in RV's. And a number of them actually
own property here but never claim residency so they don't have to pay
things like income taxes.  And, as I already stated, they don't register
their cars here so they pay no road taxes.

 
grocery,
> gas, entertainment, restaurant expenses. 

Those may help a couple of people out, but it doesn't cover the expenses
the rest of us have to pay for.

>                                           Most tourist businesses in the US
> love the snowbirds.

Tourist businesses, maybe.  But not the majority.

> 
> Are you saying the US (and specifically, Florida) do not want tourist $'s?

I don;t mind a tourist.  A tourist comes down for a week or two and then
goes home.  Snow birds live half their life down here.  Not a tourist.
I used to belong to a British Car Club in Ontario.  I used to spend two
or sometime three weekends a year there.  That's a tourist.

> 
> Btw, just to clarify - Canada closed the border for ALL US land/ferry
> traffic (no exceptions) during this past year's peak covid period (March -
> July?). In addition, the US extended its land border closure to Canada until
> the end of Sept/21.

Yeah, I keep hearing that.  And yet the highways here were loaded
with the same Quebec and Ontario (and the periodic PEI) cars we
saw before the pandemic.  And, just to throw another sabot in the
works.  My daughter's ex-husband had a girlfriend from Canada.
Even before they married she didn't seem to have any problems
coming down here to visit him.  That closed border was awfully
porous.  And we won't even get into the Canadian truck drivers
who travel the Interstates here in the Northeast Corridor. There
was never a break in the flow of them.

bill