[Info-vax] wrong file format

[Dave Froble]

On 12/31/2020 8:30 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 12/31/2020 8:13 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 12/31/2020 3:05 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 12/31/2020 2:09 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> On 12/31/20 1:58 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>> In article <rsl4jt$7ui$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>>>>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>>>>>> I would love to know where the original file that started this
>>>>>>> discussion came from and how it ended up on a VMS Systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, yes, Phillip is rather good at providing mysteries for us to
>>>>>> figure out.  It sure would have been reasonable for him to lay out
>>>>>> precisely the entire sequence of events from start to finish.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would take more time than it is worth.  Suffice it to say that
>>>>> they
>>>>> were uploaded via a shaky http connection.
>>>>
>>>> Believe it or not, that goes a long way towards explaining what
>>>> happened and what you got.  HTTP does not have a concept of
>>>> ASCII/BINARY.  Transferring "text" files from none VMS systems
>>>> to VMS systems using HTTP is bound to result in at least the
>>>> CR+LF|LF+CR|CR|LF problem and, depending on the sending system
>>>> even stranger results are possible,
>>>
>>> HTTP has the Content-Type header.
>>
>> Most of the "optional" HTTP headers are just that, optional, and I've
>> seen way too many headers that were sorely lacking in sufficient
>> header data.
>
> I think that header is pretty likely to be there.
>
> HTTP RFC says:
>
> <quote>
> Any HTTP/1.1 message containing an entity-body SHOULD include a
> Content-Type header field defining the media type of that body.
> </quote>

Well, there is that word, "should" ....

When I found incoming HTTP packages without the "Content_Length" to tell 
the size of the detail part of the package, I was rather disgusted.  So 
easy to insure the amount of data, and then not used.  I ended up 
rejecting such packages.  I felt and still feel fully justified.

> And most web stuff will not work without that header.

You might be surprised at what some might do.

> Any web server will have to send that or be considered
> totally broken.

Well, there you are wrong, because I've seen it.

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