[Info-vax] password strength (Re: VMS humor)

[Richard Maher]

On 1/01/2021 2:02 am, Craig A. Berry wrote:
> On 12/31/20 12:29 AM, John Reagan wrote:
> 
>> The phrase "King Philip fried a pheasant on Friday!" is 7 words out
>> of a dictionary full of words. The distribution is quite
>> predictable as each English word (yes, there are a few exceptions
>> known to Scrabble players) contains at least one vowel.
> 
> But unless the entire phrase is in someone's password cracking 
> dictionary, the fact that portions contain well-known words doesn't 
> really make any difference, does it? If it did, delimiting with 
> non-space characters would take care of that.
> 
>> How did you determine 189?
> 
> I did a quick web search and found this:
> 
> <http://rumkin.com/tools/password/passchk.php>
> 
> which is also something the XKCD entry below points to.
> 
>> I'm not in the XKCD camp and fall in with Steve Gibson.
>> 
>> https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/936:_Password_Strength
> 
> The point of that is that length works better than funny characters
> at increasing entropy.  Which was essentially my point as well.

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