[Info-vax] Job logicals linked to a process

Stephen Hoffman seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid
Fri Jan 8 19:54:45 EST 2021


On 2021-01-09 00:11:22 +0000, Chris Townley said:

> All in the past,

Yet you're here, asking this, which implies this mess is seemingly 
rather less in the past than might be preferred.

> ...but we only allowed shared usernames in either totally read only , 
> or with updates authenticated and logged by other means.
> The former had no password, and the second password was well known, but 
> without tyhe secondary credentials was read only. Worked for years!
> 
> Sadly now all in the past

Not the first time I've heard folks ask for logins to manage logins, 
and not the first time—as has been done here—folks have implementing 
per-user logins to manage shared logins.

Privileges to control privileges was another similarly classic request. 
Fun fact: there's a means to grant a user SETPRV privilege, but where 
that privilege is entirely unavailable for committing mayhem. But I 
digress.

Generally, it's either best to either fix the shared login problem with 
per-user logins issued, or to do what management seemingly wants done 
here and ignore it.

Which means you'll prolly end up adding your own login mechanism into 
SYLOGIN or the user's LOGIN, and preferably with the shared user marked 
as CAPTIVE or RESTRICTED or it'll get bypassed. Create your own login.

It's been interesting watching how fast some these cases can get fixed 
when management decides, too—more than a few of these cases go from 
"impossible" or "never" or "infeasible" or "unaffordable" to "done", 
once the issue is re-decided.

But in other cases, management was somewhere between oblivious or 
overloaded or otherwise overwhelmed, and some management seemingly 
enjoyed keeping IT staff into intractable and untenable situations. 
Been there. Not Fun.



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