[Info-vax] How would you load balance excess webserver traffic between multiple OpenVMS servers?

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On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2021-01-13 13:22:53 +0000, Simon Clubley said: 
> 
> > On 2021-01-12, Jan-Erik Söderholm <jan-erik.... at telia.com> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> You will not get any ransomeware attacks (not any successfull ones at 
> >> least) on your VMS servers. 
> > 
> > What on earth makes you say that ???
> There's also that hosting a high-profile and controversial web site—a 
> site such as Parler, for instance—makes any platform into a target. 
> Even if the site is not breached—which is a questionable starting 
> position particularly for a high-profile and controversial site—a 
> self-hosted site can be targeted for ransom with a DDoS. Few outside 
> CDNs and DDoS providers and government-scale entities will have the 
> available and distributed network bandwidth to continue operations 
> during a DDoS. Krebs was hit with 363 GBps sustained several years ago, 
> and I'd expect larger are now possible. And a self-hosted site that 
> gets DDoS'd also means self-hosted mail and other local activities are 
> all offline, too. DDoS ransoms happen. Even if the host itself is not 
> breached, which is what Jan-Erik is assuming. (Not everybody can 
> redirect their DNS records to Mossad during a DDoS. Yes, that's 
> happened.) 
> 
> As for the general configuration and general question.... I suspect 
> this'll all end when Bob gets quoted a price somewhere above USD$50K 
> for a couple of hosts and for clustering, and as the envisioned cluster 
> config won't be robust as two-host clusters as clusters absent quorum 
> disk are primary-secondary only. One similar config was USD$60K for a 
> pair of low-end Alpha boxes, clustered. 
> 
> With newer (not new) Itanium server hardware, and with more storage and 
> storage and I/O hardware for redundancy and backups and other sundry 
> parts, USD$100K wouldn't surprise. 
> 
> And that configuration was pre-SaaS licensing, so there'll be ongoing 
> support payments with the new configurations. The new OpenVMS product 
> licenses have termination dates. 
> 
> And if Rdb is the preferred database behind that hilarious database 
> configuration, well, I haven't seen a quote for that recently, but the 
> quotes I have seen for Rdb have generally been prodigious. 
> 
> And that's before we discuss the costs and effort involved in 
> configuring and deploying and maintaining the software involved. 
> Various of which will have to be locally developed, usually including 
> maintenance, security and auditing, backups, and other such scripting. 
> 
> TL;DR: interest in most of these OpenVMS new-cluster projects seem to 
> evaporate around the time the quotes are received. Whether these folks 
> end up remaining on AWS or other hosting, or pay for local Windows or 
> Linux or BSD or OpenVMS or otherwise, on local hardware? An 
> organization involved with legitimate activities and not otherwise 
> threatening to bomb Amazon data centers or ilk is not at risk of 
> getting kicked off AWS. If allegations of treasons or criminal 
> activities potentially arise as part of your business plan, yes, y'all 
> will probably want to host elsewhere, and else-domain. 
> 
> 
> ps: When self-hosting "everything", don't assume that locally-hosted 
> mail will arrive at the destination. Various (big) providers will 
> simply drop arriving mail from low-reputation or no-reputation mail 
> servers, and whether configured with DANE, SPF, DKIM and DMARC, or 
> otherwise.
> -- 
> Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC

YOU KNOW HAVING A DECNET OVER IP SSH CONNECTION TO THE OTHER BUILDING GIVES ME OTHER WAYS TO CREATE REDUNDANCY
BESIDES CLUSTERING, RIGHT?