[Info-vax] VSI working on alternatives to Oracle Classic database
Jan-Erik Söderholm
jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Wed Jan 20 11:23:41 EST 2021
Den 2021-01-20 kl. 15:12, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
> On 1/20/2021 8:39 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Den 2021-01-20 kl. 14:13, skrev Simon Clubley:
>>> VSI have sent out an announcement via email about alternative options
>>> they are working on now that Oracle Classic (including the client) has
>>> been discontinued for VMS.
>>>
>>> It's not on their website yet, so I don't know if it is ok to post it
>>> but it talks about various alternatives, some VMS based and some Linux
>>> based and various connection options.
>>>
>>> I mention it in case someone is looking for Oracle Classic alternatives,
>>> and have not received the email, so they can contact VSI to ask for
>>> further information.
>>
>> I replied on that directly to VSI yesterday asking why moving/porting to
>> Rdb was not one of the bulleted options. Rdb has some optional definitions
>> and functions that can be installed to an Rdb database to make it look more
>> like an Oracle Classic database. And there is an OCI interface.
>>
>> But then, if you have large amounts of PL/SQL routines, porting to
>> anything might be a challange...
>
> For those that just need *a* relational database, then there
> are plenty of alternatives for VMS.
>
> I know of: Rdb, MySQL/MariaDB, Mimer, SQLite, HSQLDB, Derby, H2.
>
> It seems weird that that don't mention Rdb. Of the above list then
> it is really the most high end and therefore the most logical
> replacement for Oracle DB (Oracle Classic in traditional VMS
> terminology). SQLite is a cool database, but I see it more as
> replacement for RMS index-sequential files.
>
> For those that depends heavily on Oracle stored procedures
> (PL/SQL - as I don't believe the VMS version of the database
> ever supported stored procedures in Java), then it is
> a totally different situation. They are probably better
> of migrating to Oracle DB on Linux.
>
> But then they need the client lib to stay on VMS
> (unless they happen to use a JVM language that can use
> thin JDBC driver, but that is probably a tiny fraction
> of uses).
>
> VSI really should convince Oracle to keep supporting the
> client lib including supporting it on VMS x86-64.
>
> I don't think there are many good alternatives as
> most third party libs are build on top of OCI.
>
> Arne
>
>
Actually, what the option list starts with is "For customers wishing
to move away from Oracle, we are able to....."
Now, it is not fully clear from the context if "Oracle" refers to
“Oracle Inc” or “Oracle Classic”... :-)
If it refers to "Oracle Inc", then Rdb is not an option, I guess...
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