[Info-vax] Is C++ good in scientific computation? Why did Fortran lose its popularity?

[Mark Berryman]

On 1/24/21 12:59 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 1/24/2021 11:10 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 1/24/21 3:09 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <rui9jd$q06$1 at panix2.panix.com>, kludge at panix.com (Scott
>>> Dorsey) writes:
>>>> ultr... at gmail.com <ultradwc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Very good comparison by a Former member of ISO/ANSI J3 Fortran 
>>>>> Standards
>>>>> Committee begs the question how C ever became the choice to do 
>>>>> anything
>>>
>>> Interesting discussion, but it didn't beg the question.  It asks the
>>> question.  Beg the question means something different.
>>
>> Easy answer really.  The demise  of domain specific languages happened
>> to coincide with the rise of Unix and thus C.  C was the hammer and in
>> the general purpose computing world every task is a nail.  Especially
>> if you think of nails as objects.
> 
> There was a time like the 90's where it seemed like the world
> was converging towards C and C++.
> 
> But no more. Today programming languages has turned
> more diverse than ever.
> 
> C/C++
> JVM with Java, Scala, Kotlin, Groovy etc.
> .NET with C#, VB.NET and F#
> PHP
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It appears that Apple has decided that PHP is unsafe.  You get the 
following message when invoking PHP in Big Sur:

% /usr/bin/php -v
WARNING: PHP is not recommended
PHP is included in macOS for compatibility with legacy software.
Future versions of macOS will not include PHP.
PHP 7.3.24-(to be removed in future macOS) (cli) (built: Nov 23 2020 
06:45:16) ( NTS )
Copyright (c) 1997-2018 The PHP Group
Zend Engine v3.3.24, Copyright (c) 1998-2018 Zend Technologies

It makes me wonder if they will eventually also stop including Apache.

Mark Berryman