[Info-vax] A new suggestion to handle the temporary production licences problem

Andrew Brehm andrew at netneurotic.net
Wed Jun 2 07:17:28 EDT 2021


On 02/06/2021 10:08, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2021-06-02 kl. 09:23, skrev Andrew Brehm:
>> On 31/05/2021 21:54, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <s92qfa$7o3$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> My idea is the same as it's been for years.  Do away with license PAKs,
>>>> allow anyone to run VMS, require support for any commercial use of VMS.
>>>> This would avoid all the issues about drop dead dates.
>>>
>>> How would you actually check whether commercial users had support?  Big
>>> commercial users?  Sure.  Commercial users with one VMS system left?
>>> Probably not.  And what about other people offering support, openly or
>>> not, in return for money?  Could VSI prevent that?  Yes, someone who
>>> needs important patches will pay for support.  But if you are relying on
>>> that, then you will have unpatched VMS support in the wild at least
>>> among non-commercial users (or, rather, all who don't want to pay for
>>> support, whether commercial or not).  But old systems which haven't been
>>> touched for years or decades probably won't be patched anyway.
>>>
>> I think all of that is too complicated.
>>
>> Perhaps the easiest distinction between commercial and non-commercial use is system specs.
>>
>> Make OpenVMS freely available to everyone and let it use up to 4 cores and up to 8 GB of RAM for free, then demand payment for more.
>>
>> This will allow everyone to use VMS for development and testing and will make serious customers pay. Likewise, if VSI goes away or someone forgets to renew support, VMS would simply collapse to using 4 cores and 8 GB only, keeping production system running but very slowly...
> 
> We have 1 core and 4 GB RAM, and the system is quite fast.
> And I do not consider a system supporting production in the main
> factory of a leading producer of forrest/garden equipment, as "small".
> 
> So no, I do not beleive in that solution.

I don't think there will be too many systems like that in the near future. As cores and memory become cheaper and cheaper, systems with 1 core and 4 GB of RAM will become a faint memory.

Time is on this idea's side.

Of course a few commercial users would escape, but they would with every licensing system that does not enforce a stop of working systems if the licence becomes invalid. You have to compare this idea to the other ideas, not to a perfect world.



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