[Info-vax] OpenVMS x64 Atom project
Dave Froble
davef at tsoft-inc.com
Fri Jun 4 13:58:49 EDT 2021
On 6/4/2021 12:49 PM, ultr... at gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 2:39:45 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 6/3/2021 2:25 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2021 1:04 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> Why are critical systems even on the Internet?
>>>
>>> Why ask me, I think it's crazy.
>> Some attacked systems are not on the internet.
>>
>> But if they are connected to systems that are
>> connected to systems that are connected to
>> the internet then ...
>>
>> Arne
>
> then what? You can't secure your telnet/ftp/web/data users using vms security standards?
>
A major problem is the TCP/IP, and it's standards. That is how the bad
guys get in. But, to be on the internet, TCP/IP is what one must speak.
You can protect it every way you can think of, but, there will be some
way you didn't think of, and the bad guys have discovered.
One thing that should work to some extent, is to have a private
communications protocol, and don't run TCP/IP on internal systems. That
probably won't work on many systems, since the capability of designing
and implementing such is beyond most shops.
Like it or not, security by obscurity is the only thing that will work.
If the bad guys don't know how to talk to your system, and you don't
have any known comm protocol, they will have a much harder time.
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David Froble Tel: 724-529-0450
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