[Info-vax] OpenVMS x64 Atom project

[Dave Froble]

On 6/4/2021 12:22 PM, ultr... at gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 1:23:44 PM UTC-4, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2021-06-03, Dave Froble <da... at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2021 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> VMS is missing security protections common in other operating systems.
>>>
>>> You mean all those "secure" systems that are constantly being hacked,
>>> invaded with ransomware and such. Are those the "common security
>>> protections" you're talking about?
>>>
>>> Perhaps I'd rather be not as "secure" ...
>>>
>> Those operating systems are being probed on a daily basis by an entire
>> army of security researchers who are very good at what they do.
>>
>> How long do you think VMS would survive if it was exposed to that
>> level of probing on a daily basis ?
>>>> Anyone saying the above does not have a clue about what is required
>>>> on the desktop or what is standard on other operating systems when
>>>> it comes to security.
>>>
>>> "Standard" as in "known how to hack"? Perhaps it's time for another
>>> direction?
>>>
>> Security by obscurity is not real security.
>>
>> It only gives (wrongly) the illusion of security to some people.
>> Simon.
>>
>> --
>> Simon Clubley, clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
>> Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.
>
> So are you saying that OpenVMS security features and 3 layer security doesn't work, or that they were compromised due
> to poor or no security implementation?
>
> Or are these holes being introduced by your garbage c programs not terminated properly producing buffer overflow holes?
>
> If OpenVMS security features such as ACLs work PROPERLY,  running live or backend to some junk linux box that gets compromised
> should not affect a properly configured OpenVMS box.
>

The only problem there, is enough people are not paranoid enough.

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