[Info-vax] Security, support and VMS, was: Re: A new VMS?

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 5/5/21 12:06 AM, Tad Winters wrote:
> On 5/4/2021 9:53 AM, Bill Gunshannon via Info-vax wrote:
>> On 5/4/21 9:25 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <ifcu1jFphjgU1 at mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
>>> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 5/4/21 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> VMS is not Unix or Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is good because it has functionality that neither of them have.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was going to let this slide by, but it just stuck in my
>>>> craw.
>>>>
>>>> What "functionality" does VMS have that Unix and Windows don't?
>>>>
>>>> Remember, we are talking "functionality", not just doing something
>>>> in a different manner.
>>>
>>> Trivially, any Turing machine can emulate another, so they all have the
>>> same functionality.  As for usefulness, top of the list for VMS are
>>> logical names, clustering, fine-grained security concept, HBVS, and file
>>> versions.
>>>
>>
>> All of them exist in some form in Unix except file versions and I have
>> never known anyone other than VMS users who saw value in them. Sorry.
> 
> Where I work, and they don't have VMS, someone says we're going to
> perform a DR test by "virtually" pulling the power on one site.  The
> response is, "Wait, the active nodes of the cluster are at that site.  I
> need to fail them over to the other side before you pull the power."
> 
> "Active?"  The "other side?"  How is that a cluster?  Where's the DR in
> that?
> 

Stop blaming OSes for the incompetence of the administrators.  Oh wait,
we like to blame computer languages for the incompetence of programmers
so I guess it's OK after all.

bill