[Info-vax] Unexpected DECnet Phase IV functionality with possible captive account implications

ultr...@gmail.com ultradwc at gmail.com
Mon May 17 20:22:02 EDT 2021


On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 3:22:27 PM UTC-4, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2021-05-17, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG <VAX... at SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote: 
> > In article <s7tn9s$oih$3... at dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes: 
> >>On 2021-05-16, ultr... at gmail.com <ultr... at gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> I was told by Process Software years ago that "for a price" they could make it possible to run their TCPware Decnet Phase IV over IP connection thru an SSH tunnel. 
> >>> 
> >>> If Process can do it why hasn't HP then or VSI now done it already? 
> >>> 
> >>> Why is your answer one of directing users to shy away from using a great protocol and one that makes OpenVMS unique? 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>There's nothing great about DECnet in 2021. When it was created 
> >>it was a good protocol for the time, but that time passed decades ago. 
> > 
> > Please tell me now to SYS$OPEN a file on another host with TCP/IP. 
> >
> Times change Brian and how you implement such things changes as well. 
> 
> There are multiple options. You could use CIFS or NFS (for example). 
> 
> There's work going on with filesystems over SSH. Whether VMS will ever 
> see any of that work is another matter. 
> 
> If the other node is in a VMS cluster, you don't need DECnet. 
> 
> For an example of a different approach in the Linux world, there's GFS2: 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFS2
> Simon. 
> 
> -- 
> Simon Clubley, clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP 
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