[Info-vax] Unexpected DECnet Phase IV functionality with possible captive account implications

[Dave Froble]

On 5/17/2021 8:41 PM, VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <s7ufph$l2m$2 at dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>> On 2021-05-17, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG <VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote:
>>> In article <s7tn9s$oih$3 at dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>>>> On 2021-05-16, ultr... at gmail.com <ultradwc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was told by Process Software years ago that "for a price" they could make it possible to run their TCPware Decnet Phase IV over IP connection thru an SSH tunnel.
>>>>>
>>>>> If Process can do it why hasn't HP then or VSI now done it already?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is your answer one of directing users to shy away from using a great protocol and one that makes OpenVMS unique?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's nothing great about DECnet in 2021. When it was created
>>>> it was a good protocol for the time, but that time passed decades ago.
>>>
>>> Please tell me now to SYS$OPEN a file on another host with TCP/IP.
>>>
>>
>> Times change Brian and how you implement such things changes as well.
>>
>> There are multiple options. You could use CIFS or NFS (for example).
>>
>> There's work going on with filesystems over SSH. Whether VMS will ever
>> see any of that work is another matter.
>>
>> If the other node is in a VMS cluster, you don't need DECnet.
>>
>> For an example of a different approach in the Linux world, there's GFS2:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFS2
>
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> NODE::DEVICE:[DIRECTORY]FILENAME.EXT;VERSION
>

It's a bit funny, and a lot sad, that even though people know what they 
are advocating doesn't exist, they still promote it.

As far as I know, GFS2 doesn't exist on VMS.  Somebody know something I 
don't know?

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