[Info-vax] Editors, was: Re: VT keyboard replacement

[Dave Froble]

On 11/9/2021 10:21 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 11/9/2021 9:57 AM, VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <smbq3b$o9$1 at dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>>> On 2021-11-08, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) <helbig at asclothestro.multivax.de> wrote:
>>>> In article <b6c4a416-0ccf-4518-b5fa-039d8d23f88cn at googlegroups.com>,
>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Lawrence_D=E2=80=99Oliveiro?= <lawrencedo99 at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 6:27:48 PM UTC+13, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>>> It is the most efficient, not the most powerful. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> As in helping you to be the most productive?
>>>>
>>>> Exactly.
>>>
>>> How exactly ?
>>>
>>> By today's standards, EDT's limited functionality makes it the
>>> assembly language version of editors when compared to other editors
>>> which are fully featured editors.
>>
>> Where is the list of *today's standards* for editors?
>
> "today's standard" does not imply a formal (ANSI/ISO) standard just
> some relative vague general expectations.
>
> What is the general expectations from an editor today?
>
> I would say:
> - GUI
> - standard menus with at least File, Edit and Help in the menu bar
> - at least Open, Save, Save As and Exit in the File menu
> - at least Copy, Cut, Paste, Search and Replace in the Edit menu
> - common shortcuts CTRL/A, CTRL/C, CTRL/X and CTRL/V
> - ability to mark blocks with mouse
> - certain edit function available via right click
> - ability to have multiple files open
> - ability to show multiple buffers simultaneously
> - some language specific color highlighting
> - some smart indenting

In other words, WEENDOZE ...

Perhaps my usage is too focused.  When I think of text editor, I think of
working on programs.  Basic, Macro-32, and (hawk, spit, gag) C.  Maybe some DCL.

I'm sure there can be other uses and my focus is too narrow.  But for what I
use EDT on VMS, it is what I listed above.  Others may have different needs.

> If any of that is missing then I think eyebrows will be raised.

Not here.  My eyebrows are raised because we're talking about this.

> Several of these are just conventions. But it is conventions that
> ensures that you can open an editor that you have never used
> before and do some basic editing because the basic stuff is the
> same.

Good way to make mistakes ...


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