[Info-vax] Safer programming languages (and walking :-) ), was: Re: 8-bit characters

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 11/14/21 5:05 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2021-11-14, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>> On 11/14/2021 11:10 AM, John Reagan wrote:
>>> On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 1:28:38 PM UTC-5, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2021-11-11, Robert A. Brooks <FIRST... at vmssoftware.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/11/2021 4:01 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/11/2021 3:57 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You remember correctly. The hardwired '24 line terminal' assumption pissed me
>>>>>>> off and a few times I looked at it I said no way I can fix that spaghetti
>>>>>>> code. But one day the planets were aligned or something, and I just did it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Macro-32 ?
>>>>>
>>>>> BLISS-32
>>>>>
>>>> Same difference. :-)
>>>>
>>>> On a more serious note, BLISS-32 was a nice idea, but it's at way too
>>>> low a level to make a real difference.
>>>>
>>>> Now, if we had a Pascal-like or Ada-like language that could be used
>>>> as a system implementation language... :-)
>>>>
>>>> Simon.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Simon Clubley, clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
>>>> Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.
>>>
>>> Next time you post that, please add a "<Trigger warning for John Reagan>" at the top please.
>>>
>>
>> What?  You don't like "walking destinations" ?  Neither do I.
>>
>> I really disagree with Simon on this topic, the implementation language thing,
>> not the walking thing.  Well, maybe both.
>>
> 
> I take it you are not a walker David. :-)
> 
> I wonder how many people around here who are walkers either agree with
> me or at least understand what I am saying ?
> 
>> One really doesn't need a language or compiler to get in the way of what needs
>> to be done.
>>
> 
> There is a move towards more safe languages for systems programming.
> 
> The current fashion, Rust, has horrible syntax, and I have no confidence
> that code written in it today will still compile on the Rust compilers
> of 5 to 10 years from now, but its use is being driven by the desire
> for using safer languages.
> 
> When Rust falls out of fashion, it would be nice if whatever follows
> Rust would address both of those problems.
> 

I thought this is the problem Ada was created to fix?  :-)

bill