[Info-vax] Trigger warnings, was: Re: 8-bit characters

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Mon Nov 15 14:37:59 EST 2021


On 11/15/2021 1:39 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2021-11-14, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 11/14/2021 2:43 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2021 1:41 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> However, you have been way too quick to issue a "trigger warning"
>>>> request without even telling me what "triggered" you. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Was it comparing BLISS-32 to Macro-32 ?
>>>>
>>>> Was it the desire to have a Pascal-like or Ada-like language as a
>>>> viable system implementation language ?
>>>
>>> I'm figuring this is it.  No such thing as a language that can do
>>> everything. Sometimes simpler is better.
>>
>> Programming languages are definitely not "one size fits all".
>>
>> I totally agree that simpler is better for programming languages.
>>
>> And this is not just you and me - very complex languages tend not
>> to prosper in the industry.
>>
>> But I don't think Simon's point was complex vs simple.
>>
>> More like structured vs goto style. and strong typing vs weak
>> typing.
> 
> Yes, very much so.
> 
>> Because Ada is a complex language, but Pascal is actually a relative
>> simple language (at least in traditional form and in VMS flavor - Delphi
>> has sort of moved a bit in the complex direction).
> 
> I can't help but wonder however if there's still a latent market for a
> language that has all the basics and type safety of Ada but without all
> the complexity that has been bolted onto Ada (especially in recent versions).

Maybe there is.

But right now the only two languages in the "low level"
"more safe than C/C++" category with some traction seems
to be Rust and Go.

And I don't think they are nearly as safe as Ada.

Arne




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