[Info-vax] Editors, was: Re: VT keyboard replacement

Tad Winters tad.vms at gmx.com
Fri Nov 19 22:44:16 EST 2021


On 11/18/2021 2:41 PM, alanfe...--- via Info-vax wrote:
> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 1:39:07 PM UTC-5, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2021-11-17, alanfe... at gmail.com <alanfe... at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can your favorite editor let you define keys without compiling a huge
>>> section file? Can you easily look up what any given key combo does? Esp.
>>> when done by learn mode? Just asking.
>>>
>> I have already answered your first question (answer is yes) and posted
>> EVE examples for you to try.
>
> I didn't see any such post. Also my other problem with compiling things in EVE is that I once got "Compilation aborted on line 1." Line 1!!! How am I supposed to debug something with a msg. like that? (My changed line of code was well past line 1.)
>
> AGAIN: Every time I try EVE there's a problem. At remote labs it didn't work _at all_ without a lot of fuss playing with terminal settings and whatnot. With EDT I don't have such problems. I don't have to wait half a minute to open a huge file just to change the first few lines like I do with EVE. EDT works fine for me. If you need a more powerful editor, fine! I'm not stopping you. I don't need multiple buffers on the screen at the same time in the same session. I don't need all that scripting. I just want to edit some simple DCL. OK? I'm a lowly ex-physicist who wrote a lot of stuff in FORTRAN. I've inspected Pascal code, started learning c, and dabbled a little in existing perl scripts. That's it! I'm not a professional coder! For those who are, use a more powerful editor. I'm okay with that!!!
>
> One time both EDT and EVE failed me! I needed lines longer than 255 chars, but also SET NO TRUNCATE. Neither editor has both. So I had to struggle to get the task done.
>
> The only times I need EVE is for overstrike mode and box editing. The rest of the time I like EDT, esp. now that it is not limited to 22 lines. (Actually, there may be other rare times, like wildcard searches maybe, but it's been a long, long time!)
>

Many times I've used EVE to edit files whose records are 2000+
characters.  I never had problems.  The system was running at least VMS
V5.5, but maybe V6.2.  On what version of VMS did you last use EVE?

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