[Info-vax] Rust language community in chaos

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Wed Nov 24 09:17:44 EST 2021


On 11/24/2021 8:59 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2021-11-23, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 11/23/2021 2:26 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>
>>> And that may be the real upcoming problem. Based on what has come
>>> out so far, it looks like there are serious problems in the Core team
>>> and none of them appear to have resigned.
>>
>> It is clearly stated in the resignation that the core team does
>> not like to be moderated regarding code of conduct by the
>> moderation team.
> 
> So IOW, one set of rules for the leaders and a different set of rules
> for everyone else.

That seems to be why the moderation team resigned yes.

>> But considering how many open source projects that has
>> thrived for decades without even having code of conduct
>> and a moderation team then it is not obvious to me
>> what the "serious problem" is.
> 
> That's the old way of doing things.
> 
> In the new fashionable way of doing things, you are supposed to
> declare how your language is a socially conscious language and
> then bring along all the CoC and moderation infrastructure to
> support that.
> 
> That's exactly the kind of statement the Rust people made BTW when
> they setup the Rust language project.

My point is that there are two different questions:
1) is the "old way" still able to produce software?
2) is the "new way" morally better than the "old way"?

And I think the answer to question #1 is YES.

Which means that the risk for Rust users is minimal.

Arne






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