[Info-vax] RMS - Wish list

[Simon Clubley]

On 2021-10-15, Greg Tinkler <tinklerg at gmail.com> wrote:
> re $GET, sorry yup you are correct you can use $GET to get an arbitrary range of yes from a UDF file, but you cannot you $UPDATE.
> %RMS-F-CUR, no current record (operation not preceded by $GET/$FIND), even if you do a $FIND or $GET before.
> FYI $PUT is good to append to the file.
>
> So I see this inconsistency as a bug...
>
> re stream file, interesting thought stream/meme...  
> Originally the term was probably from using punched tapes, remember them.  What we now focus on is addressable data, call it a record, or an object or a what ever but it is not stream.  In fact even punched cards are more stream than record based, at least that is my memory of them.
>
> Even the example given for SSIO was a block of bytes, i.e. a record, needing to be updated somewhere on a disk block(s).  That is NOT stream access.

As Craig as already pointed out, that is not correct.

You are obviously one of those VMS people who are unwilling to
accept that the part of VMS they care about (RMS on your case)
is somehow limited to the usage models that were in use when
their part of VMS was designed.

You are coming across as no different to those out of touch people
who like to go around claiming that VMS is the most secure
operating system on the planet and utterly ignore any evidence
to the contrary.

Likewise, you are also utterly ignoring the evidence that RMS is
NOT the solution for the new SSIO requirements.

Times change and requirements change. RMS was designed in an
era when records were the unit of access. RMS can still be used
when records are the unit of access, but different requirements
outside of this require different solutions.

Simon.

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