[Info-vax] SET DEFAULT iterative logical name translation

Dave Froble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Mon Oct 25 15:32:15 EDT 2021


On 10/25/2021 12:30 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2021-10-25 04:28:45 +0000, alanfeldman48 at gmail.com said:
>
>> But Hoff, it _was_ fixed! Looks like no one knows when or what
>> version of VMS it was fixed in.
>
> If this purported logical name colon-oscopy makes you happy and if
> logical names do what you need, by all means enjoy and use logical
> names. They are what is available, of course.

I do use them, to some extent.  I don't go in for some of the quirky
things, such as rooted logicals.  I don't like things to be hidden.

I'm quite happy with the way I use logicals.
I am not guilty of how others may use them.

> For my usage, logical names are a weak and volatile system-integrated
> key-value store design straight from the 1980s, and largely intended
> for app customization, and competitively woefully inadequate for app
> needs past device and file redirection, and I'm increasingly
> skeptical there.

WHOA!!!

Where did that "app customization" thing come from?

Device and file redirection (your terminology) is a good thing, and
logicals used in a good manner do that quite well.
  
> Logical names provide one facet of app customization semi-adequately,
> and that is not an issue I tend to have encounter or create in newer
> app designs, while poorly providing for other app customization
> requirements, and the whole of logical-name-based settings
> maintenance is just utterly and stupidly disconnected from the apps
> themselves.

Got to agree, since logicals have no place in the apps.

> The whole realm of logical names and app customization needs an
> overhaul of a scale well past the VAX/VMS V4.0 overhaul.

The concept needs to die ...


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