[Info-vax] OpenVMS developmen integration with Azure DevOps.

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 9/1/2021 10:52 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2021-09-01 kl. 14:35, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
>> On 9/1/2021 5:47 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> There are talks around our OpenVMS environment and project work
>>> where it is looked at to add Azure DevOps to our work environment.
>>>
>>> They are talkning about "pipelines" within Azure DevOps where
>>> the build procedures are setup and the build is run from within
>>> the Azure Devops environment.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any comments around this? Have anyone looked at
>>> using Azure DevOps for their OpenVMS development/test/deploy?
>>>
>>> Has anyone looked at other tools (DECset?) to do anything in
>>> this direction?
>>
>> I suspect that typical VMS processes are a few decades behind
>> modern cloud devops processes.
>>
>> But most things are possible with some effort.
>>
>> I know that:
>> - John Malmberg & vms-ports use Jenkins for builds
>> - Jenkins integrate with Azure devops
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/vms-ports/wiki/UsingJenkinsCi/
>>
>> https://medium.com/@bbenz/azure-devops-and-jenkins-in-perfect-harmony-8c92ff980723 
>>
>>
>> Maybe some of that stuff can be utilized.
> 
> Right, the guy that made the Azure DevOps presentation from our group
> had a hard time to understand why we just didn't copy our source codes
> to a Azure VM and just run the build from DevOps... :-)
> 
> We had to run a quick presentation of OpenVMS on our Alpha dev system.
> Oh, so it is Cobol?
> Oh, so it is a main-frame?
> Oh, so this is not running on X86?

:-)

But if they want to proceed then there may be some ways to integrate.

> Ah, well. Not my idea to look at DevOps. It also seems as we are going
> to Agile/Scrum also. Where are those retirment plans...

There are some people here that prefer measles over Scrum, but if the
project is a decent fit for Scrum, then it is not bad. In fact there are
probably many of such projects that are doing things very Scrum like
even though they have never heard of Scrum.

Arne