[Info-vax] Command Procedure Pipe output to a variable
VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG
VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG
Tue Sep 7 19:36:28 EDT 2021
In article <sh897i$sek$1 at dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>On 2021-09-07, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG <VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote:
>>
>> My buddy Simon has completely ignored my comments on record oriented access
>> over DECnet. I believe he speaks and types only to hear and read himself.
>>
>
>As you should well know Brian, using an insecure protocol in an insecure
>environment just because of a certain feature is utterly irresponsible
>from a security point of view.
>
>This isn't even appropriate any more for protocols that offer major
>unique functionality such as VMS clusters. Why do you think VSI,
>with everything else they need to do, are investing time and effort
>into adding a secure layer to the clustering protocol ?
>
>No, you should look for alternatives or find a different way to do
>things. That's why telnet is banned (for example) and ssh is enforced
>on many networks today. Everyone else manages to solve data sharing
>problems using secure techniques available on those other platforms.
>If VMS doesn't have those secure options, then that's a failing in VMS.
>
>BTW, record access is a feature that is a unique VMS requirement. You could
>try the VMS versions of NFS which supports the storing of VMS attributes.
>However, do any of the VMS NFS implementations support the NFS 4 protocol
>with secure links ?
>
>As for file sharing in general, other people do it by using clustering
>protocols, remotely mounting filesystems or just copying the files.
>Examples include NFS, Samba, and GFS2.
>
>Linux has also recently acquired the ability to mount filesystems over
>SSH, but you are unlikely to ever see that in VMS due to VMS's utter
>inability to support userspace filesystems.
>
>Times have changed and VMS needs to keep up with those times if it
>is to remain usable in many of today's environments. Telling everyone
>else to stand still so that VMS can still play is not a viable approach.
>
>One final question: If DAP would be so wonderful to the world in general,
>then why isn't there a TCP/IP version of DAP ? (WebDAV doesn't really
>count IMHO unless it's moved on recently). There's a standardised TCP/IP
>version of every other application protocol.
>
>Simon.
Thank you for proving my point.
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