[Info-vax] VSI strategy for OpenVMS

Dave Froble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Mon Sep 13 14:37:26 EDT 2021


On 9/13/2021 10:46 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2021-09-13 kl. 16:15, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
>> On 9/12/2021 7:17 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 9/12/2021 6:45 PM, John Dallman wrote:
>>>> In article <shldvp$1jl$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, arne at vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But to me the focus should be obvious: operating systems are
>>>>> sold by applications - VMS needs more applications, so work
>>>>> should focus on getting more applications developed for and
>>>>> ported to VMS.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but which applications? What fields of computing will give the
>>>> best
>>>> return for VSI?
>>>>
>>>> I doubt, for example, that Libre Office or Firefox will be especially
>>>> worthwhile. Current GUI apps are likely to need more than the X11/Motif
>>>> stack, and providing Qt looks like a big job. Databases, middleware and
>>>> the like might well be more worthwhile.
>>>
>>> The money is in business applications.
>>>
>>> So COTS business applications and in-house business applications.
>>>
>>> Those two need the same: compilers, libraries, databases, web servers,
>>> message queue servers, cache servers etc..
>>
>> Apropos.
>>
>> https://vmssoftware.com/resources/blog/2021-09-09-thinking-of-moving-to-postresql/
>>
>>
>> <quote>
>> SSIO (Shared Stream I/O) is mentioned on our roadmap, and once this is
>> available, customers will be able to run PostgreSQL (and other
>> applications requiring SSIO) natively on their OpenVMS systems, which
>> is most definitely something to look forward to.
>> </quote>
>>
>> I like the use of the phrase "once this is available".
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Arne
>
> What is written into the roadmap is:
> "Shared Stream IO (SSIO) (Non-clustered)"
>
> That "non-clustred" phrase might be an issue for some...
>
>

Back in the day I did some work for a customer.  They had a cluster, all 
at one site, of maybe 6 11/780 systems.  The reason for the cluster was 
for additional compute capability.  Today, with multi-core CPUs, that 
particular need is serviced without running a VMS cluster.

Yes, there are multiple reasons to run a VMS cluster.  But compute 
resources for the most part is no longer one of those reasons.

I have no information to know what the breakdown is among VMS cluster 
users.  But, I'll pull an Arne and state my factless opinion.  I'm 
thinking that VMS clusters will not be an issue for many VMS users.

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