[Info-vax] VSI strategy for OpenVMS

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Tue Sep 14 08:16:00 EDT 2021


On 9/14/2021 12:41 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> In article <shopgc$b49$3 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>> On 9/13/2021 8:01 PM, chris wrote:
>>> On 09/13/21 18:24, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>> Bill Gunshannon<bill.gunshannon at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> Any browser requires a desktop.  I thought that idea had been abandoned?
>>>>
>>>> No it doesn't, that is the beauty of DECWindows.  Mind you, there's
>>>> really
>>>> no reason to have a browser on a machine without a desktop, other than
>>>> for diagnostic purposes and downloads.  But it's not required, and it is
>>>> occasionally handy.
>>>>
>>>> Does "occasionally handy" warrant an enormous effort to port a modern
>>>> browser
>>>> to VMS?  I don't think so.  But if someone here wants to give it a
>>>> try, have
>>>> at it.  That's the beauty of open source.
>>>
>>> A lot of system management is done via browsers, for years now. Also,
>>> for software dev, nothing beats a windowing system with multiple
>>> terminal windows and tabbed full screen editors. I used to be pretty
>>> deft with edt on a vt terminal but those days are gone forever. All the
>>> ilom i've worked with works far better using a browser for access. A
>>> sort of universal access method for systems. So yes, lack of a browser
>>> might be seen as a serious disadvantage.
>>
>> Web interfaces are very common for admin stuff today.
>>
>> But usually running the browser on a PC will work fine.
> 
> Right.  But if one downloads and uploads files from VMS, then a browser
> on VMS allows one to avoid going through a third system.

Most VMS systems runs something important and do not have
access to download directly from the internet.

Arne




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