[Info-vax] VSI strategy for OpenVMS
Jan-Erik Söderholm
jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Tue Sep 14 08:53:37 EDT 2021
Den 2021-09-14 kl. 14:25, skrev chris:
> On 09/14/21 13:16, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 9/14/2021 12:41 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <shopgc$b49$3 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
>>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>> On 9/13/2021 8:01 PM, chris wrote:
>>>>> On 09/13/21 18:24, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>>>> Bill Gunshannon<bill.gunshannon at gmail.com>Â wrote:
>>>>>>> Any browser requires a desktop. I thought that idea had been
>>>>>>> abandoned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No it doesn't, that is the beauty of DECWindows. Mind you, there's
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> no reason to have a browser on a machine without a desktop, other than
>>>>>> for diagnostic purposes and downloads. But it's not required, and
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> occasionally handy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does "occasionally handy" warrant an enormous effort to port a modern
>>>>>> browser
>>>>>> to VMS? I don't think so. But if someone here wants to give it a
>>>>>> try, have
>>>>>> at it. That's the beauty of open source.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of system management is done via browsers, for years now. Also,
>>>>> for software dev, nothing beats a windowing system with multiple
>>>>> terminal windows and tabbed full screen editors. I used to be pretty
>>>>> deft with edt on a vt terminal but those days are gone forever. All the
>>>>> ilom i've worked with works far better using a browser for access. A
>>>>> sort of universal access method for systems. So yes, lack of a browser
>>>>> might be seen as a serious disadvantage.
>>>>
>>>> Web interfaces are very common for admin stuff today.
>>>>
>>>> But usually running the browser on a PC will work fine.
>>>
>>> Right. But if one downloads and uploads files from VMS, then a browser
>>> on VMS allows one to avoid going through a third system.
>>
>> Most VMS systems runs something important and do not have
>> access to download directly from the internet.
>>
>> Arne
>>
>
> A lot of excuses why a browser should not be included. It's a
> standard tool that everyone takes for granted these days and is
> universal in terms of cross platform operation and compatibility
>
> just one more thing that would help drag vms into the modern age..
>
> Chris
>
No, a web *browser* on VMS would do nothing positive for VMS.
It is simply neither asked for or needed.
Browsers are run on desktop environments.
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